[Gross] hermes.sun.com

[Eino Tuominen]

Jesse Thompson wrote:
> 
> I don't want to greylist legitimate senders.  Ideally, Sun should get
> themselves off of blacklists if they expect mail to flow efficiently to
> everyone (we're very conservative compared to others.)  Their
> narcissistic process of making customers manually whitelist their
> servers is wasting more resources than whatever resources would be spent
> by Sun retrying on 4xx.

Not to mention their implementation of SMTP sending out these 
newsletters is grossly (sic) violating the RFC:

4.5.4.1 Sending Strategy
    ...
    while mail that cannot be transmitted immediately MUST be
    queued and periodically retried by the sender. ...

-- 
   Eino Tuominen